tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post6627144322048828074..comments2024-03-27T00:22:35.272-07:00Comments on EXSKF: #Radiation in Japan: List of Prefectures in Japan That Have Said They Will Accept Disaster Debrisarevamirpal::laprimaverahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10637620330944911600noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-61750029588820047912011-08-26T06:15:16.468-07:002011-08-26T06:15:16.468-07:00You are right areva, it will never even get close ...You are right areva, it will never even get close to where an expensive RADfilter needs to be bought and used.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-24814544802553206422011-08-25T21:25:35.018-07:002011-08-25T21:25:35.018-07:00The problem will be: what is considered "radi...The problem will be: what is considered "radioactive"? It is likely that most of the disaster debris in Fukushima and Miyagi, even Iwaki may be "radioactive" to a varying degree. Some may be only slightly radioactive, some may be radioactive a lot. The government will pick a number and declare anything below that number to be just regular industrial waste. <br /><br />Osaka and several other prefectures on Osaka Bay are eager to accept debris for their big landfill project. Tokyo already buried the radioactive ashes in its landfill on Tokyo Bay, without bothering to tell the citizens, until they were caught in early June.<br /><br />Japan is simply swapping one interest group (nuke power/plant) with another (waste management). Big projects, dango collusion, crushing the citizens' oppositions. Same old story. I hope the net and social media make the difference this time around, but hope is not a viable strategy.arevamirpal::laprimaverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10637620330944911600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-72113113730019895412011-08-25T20:34:12.034-07:002011-08-25T20:34:12.034-07:00A friend of mine who works for a city on this list...A friend of mine who works for a city on this list here went through his boss to get some information. Here's what he had to say:<br /><br />There was a survey sent out by the Ministry of the Environment about capacity for helping with the recovery. It included lots of questions including accepting people into temporary housing, etc. It also included questions about burning capacity. But the city has not offered to burn nuclear contaminated waste. <br /> <br />To burn any garbage it is not a simple decision making process. The question must first go through Gikai and then some sort of public consultation, most likely with people living in the area around the burning site. The garbage disposal site cannot make this decision on their own.<br /> <br />My boss said that during the BSE crisis there was also a similar request regarding burning waste. At that time they wanted to burn tainted beef. This was turned down at the Gikai level as well as the public level. So the idea of burning contaminated waste has a history of refusal here.<br /> <br />He thinks that the issue is not to come in the near future as this was just a basic survey level. Even if the idea of burning garbage from Tokushima was brought up it would be very difficult to impossible to pass, he believes.<br /> <br />Because all of these issues have to pass through the Gikai, it is best to talk to your Giin about the issue, as they will have a direct say the matter. Maybe you can talk to your Giin just to get more information and express your concerns. This may cause them to do some research and increase their own awareness. A well composed letter asking for more information and possible implications may be appropriate.Toddhttp://gaijinfarmer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-37207729750147626662011-08-25T16:23:46.954-07:002011-08-25T16:23:46.954-07:00When city office say they won't receive radioa...When city office say they won't receive radioactive materials, they may mean they won't receive anything radioactive according to the government safety levels. Anything within these levels is considered non-radioactive. That was the impression we got from Kyoto city hall.Kyotoresidentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-51788996625898999982011-08-25T08:42:46.495-07:002011-08-25T08:42:46.495-07:00"The Japanese people have show themselves to ..."The Japanese people have show themselves to be pathetically subservient, apathetic and ignorant. They say the people get the government they deserve." I couldnt agree more... Fuck Japan, if they don't stand up for themselves then they are complicit..they love to bash the Chinese but the Japanese are worse man !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-54797717116728991392011-08-25T08:19:10.868-07:002011-08-25T08:19:10.868-07:00This is about the last straw for me. I live in Yok...This is about the last straw for me. I live in Yokohama and it's on the list. I asked my wife to check it out and the mayor of Yokohama says that they won't receive any radioactive rubble. This is the same bitch who bought the cheap contaminated beef to feed the kids at school. I would be delighted for the kickback slut to explain how Yokohama is making sure they only receive non-contaminated debris. <br />Again, this is all about money. Those who run the incineration business are gagging to get their hands on this stuff to make a load of cash and finish the country off by contaminating everywhere. And of course the local politicians will help as long as they get their backhander. <br />No take aways or eating at restaurants, buying food from the south etc. my family and I have managed well enough. But dumping this shit on my doorstep is the end of it. <br />The Japanese people have show themselves to be pathetically subservient, apathetic and ignorant. They say the people get the government they deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-48479830035536486382011-08-25T06:37:44.928-07:002011-08-25T06:37:44.928-07:00ah yes let us trust that the "technical aspec...ah yes let us trust that the "technical aspects are looked at carefully". a euphemistic phrase for "how can we do this without spending a dime(consequences be damned) and still make money" if we are talking about japan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-74177065608097053482011-08-25T06:23:54.948-07:002011-08-25T06:23:54.948-07:00"Anonymous said...
There are a lot of silly ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />There are a lot of silly comments here,..."<br /><br />Really? Like what for instance makes your comment of such an uncommon genius in comparison? Pffffah. Filters? They are going to outfit all the involved incinerators with expensive RADfilters? They are going to spend money on RADfilters and their proper disposal as radwaste, and further strict monitoring and proper disposal of ash as radwaste?? Are you nuts? These are people cut from the same cloth as the ones that bought cheap caesium filled "reduced on sale" Fuku beef to feed schoolchildren. Best put a filter on what you've personally been smoking, dude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-26838672070001727502011-08-25T01:43:39.635-07:002011-08-25T01:43:39.635-07:00There are a lot of silly comments here, yes, the p...There are a lot of silly comments here, yes, the policy is bloody stupid, but exactly how much of the radiation contained in the debris will be released when it is burned? Ex SKF wrote about this here:<br /><br />http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/radiation-in-japan-practically-any.html<br /><br />It talks about burial of the ashes but not how much radioactivity will be released by burning, and how the filters would be dealt with.<br /><br />Yes, bloody stupid but people are not really looking at the technical aspects carefully. I agree though, everyone should complain to their local ward office as if they will listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-46437985413991930562011-08-24T19:23:23.029-07:002011-08-24T19:23:23.029-07:00Edgar Cayce, the greater portion of Japan must go...Edgar Cayce, the greater portion of Japan must go into the ocean.jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685480174324812587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-10963848164163996182011-08-24T16:12:49.749-07:002011-08-24T16:12:49.749-07:00Hmmm, still did not get a good answer about how th...Hmmm, still did not get a good answer about how they will incinerate the radioactive waste. I agree with one person who said the filters will not really filter it out, and if they do will have to be replaced. It is simiiar to the water decontamination problem, it just shifts the problem but does not solve it. Still, if Ultraman can find out more would like to know what the Incineration Industry says about this. I agree though, it is an insane policy, any way you look at it.<br /><br />And now this!<br /><br />Auschwitz The Comedy<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pbJDZcPJ1lc#!<br /><br />http://www.nazigassings.com/ ;<br /><br />http://www.revisionistworkshop.com/2011/03/fritz-berg-radio-interview/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-79807124533852959782011-08-24T16:01:34.660-07:002011-08-24T16:01:34.660-07:00*Sigh* Is anyone even surprised by this? The typic...*Sigh* Is anyone even surprised by this? The typical passivity and ignorance of the Japanese people will eventually doom Japan. If this burning of debris does spread more radiation on those listed cities, it is OVER for Japan. Period. She will never recover from this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-83076604600327047132011-08-24T12:23:21.779-07:002011-08-24T12:23:21.779-07:00I am really shocked and speechless.
Sorry, I am j...I am really shocked and speechless.<br /><br />Sorry, I am just a stupid kraut.<br />But, I really do not understand why there is not a "Truemmerberg" (big pile of garbage high as a mountain and then being greened) in Fukushima prefecture made.<br />It is soooo sad that these ignorant politicians decided to spoil all of this wonderful country that Japan is (or was?).<br /><br />Why doesn't the Emperor intervene?<br /><br />I just do not understand.<br />Sorry.Atomfritznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-30043133070526791712011-08-24T11:37:50.682-07:002011-08-24T11:37:50.682-07:00"Japanese scientists attempt to breed radiati...<i>"Japanese scientists attempt to breed radiation resistant rice".</i><br /><br />Good God, forget the "disgrace" category because now, for me, it has ventured into the "surreal" category and I can hear the music from the Twilight Zone playing in my head with every forthcoming news article. WTF Japanese people???!!!???!!! Never mind the forced "compassion for your neighbour" anymore because that will include the criminals. Instead, have compassion for yourselves! Think about it!the voice in your headnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-82885138843175293132011-08-24T11:18:35.082-07:002011-08-24T11:18:35.082-07:00this nation is really an ignorant. greedy gov`t ...this nation is really an ignorant. greedy gov`t never think the future, this is a complete depopulation kill the people then nobody pay taxes kokumin kenko hoken will fuck up for the hundreds of thousands people will be sick and dead... can`t believe this will going to happen,,, spread the poison ohhhhhh so the whole nation will be contaminated!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-36559230116651918812011-08-24T11:09:48.744-07:002011-08-24T11:09:48.744-07:00Anonymous wrote:
"Japanese scientists attemp...Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"Japanese scientists attempt to breed radiation resistant rice".<br /><br />I wonder what water source they will use to grow this rice. And will they next attempt to breed radiation resistant cows, pigs, poultry and fish?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-78284269723349456502011-08-24T10:21:03.354-07:002011-08-24T10:21:03.354-07:00Watch this one:
"M" for Meltdown
http:...Watch this one:<br /><br />"M" for Meltdown<br /><br />http://vimeo.com/27506015Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-41410159859965317632011-08-24T06:55:33.028-07:002011-08-24T06:55:33.028-07:00Ono, you're saying this list was made in April...Ono, you're saying this list was made in April?? Can you give us any more information? Where did it come from? Is there a script or a document that people can use to talk to their city/prefecture government? Any information would be very appreciated.Toddhttp://gaijinfarmer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-67316906390437866212011-08-24T06:28:37.884-07:002011-08-24T06:28:37.884-07:00Hi EXSKF, is this article in Japanese? I want to p...Hi EXSKF, is this article in Japanese? I want to pass it around here in Japan and tweet it like crazy....this shit must be stopped... thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-46293080171093805762011-08-24T05:43:43.058-07:002011-08-24T05:43:43.058-07:00The physics are easy, and fundamental.
What ever h...The physics are easy, and fundamental.<br />What ever has contaminated the brach or garbage, and that is burned to aches, the fallout is stil there or if burned up totaly it have gone up in to the air, with the smoke.<br /><br />Thats the problem. This will only spread the radiation, and in no way reduce it.<br />Solves nothing.<br />I fimly hope that when and finaly the grim relitys arive inside the minds of the people of Japan. The end result of this disaster may be hugh ares forbidden for any living creature to walk on, for almosut a eternety.<br />All this radiation must be colected or awoided to enter, Like Tjenobyl, Fukushima is doomed and in that moment it will be the gravyard for Nuklear waits. The last solution, at the present time and tecnology.<br /><br />This continous radiation fallout must be stopped, or time and the amount of radiation will eventualy, conquer it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-63848911511241280162011-08-24T05:19:57.738-07:002011-08-24T05:19:57.738-07:00I asked to Kumamoto City in Kyushu island. They sa...I asked to Kumamoto City in Kyushu island. They said, "We will not accept Debris. This list was made on April. AND we didn't know about radiactive problem then."<br /><br />Even now Four PrefectureS are willing to get them.<br />Tokyo, Yamagata, Aichi and Osaka.<br /><br />All of Japanese except goverment are angry at this decision.Onohttp://onodekita.sblo.jpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-33786712386983179552011-08-24T03:59:30.838-07:002011-08-24T03:59:30.838-07:00The filters in the Incinerators are not designed t...The filters in the Incinerators are not designed to filter out radiation.<br />In any case, they themselves will become irradiated if they DO filter out any radiation, and will have to be changed by someone, at some point (Probably not).<br />Some radiation will escape, as some smoke does escape from incinerators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-2731161129881904962011-08-24T02:49:42.840-07:002011-08-24T02:49:42.840-07:00Ultraman,
How is the debris burned, just out in ...Ultraman, <br /><br />How is the debris burned, just out in the open or in incinerators? I assume the latter? I agree with you it is a big money deal, the incineration business in Japan is big business and they rely on a regular amount of waste otherwise they lose business, thus there is no incentive to stop chopping down rainforests etc.<br /><br />At any rate, do you or anyone know, just technically speaking, how much radiation would be filtered out, does anyone even attempt to explain this from the government point of view? Will they filter out 99 percent of the radiation (but then where will this fly ash be stored, Mongolia?), 50 percent, 0 percent? <br /><br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-49912099792436567172011-08-24T02:40:08.417-07:002011-08-24T02:40:08.417-07:00No! No! No!
Read!
Japanese scientists attempt to...No! No! No!<br /><br />Read!<br /><br />Japanese scientists attempt to breed radiation resistant rice<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8717373/Japanese-scientists-attempt-to-breed-radiation-resistant-rice.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-30538591686123280372011-08-24T02:33:47.384-07:002011-08-24T02:33:47.384-07:00thank you very much!!thank you very much!!doitujinnoreply@blogger.com