Sunday, November 20, 2011

AFP: 'Time has come' to act on Iran, Israel says

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak cites the report by IAEA, headed by Japanese bureaucrat Yukiya Amano.

From AFP via Yahoo News (11/20/2011):

The "time has come" to deal with Iran, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Sunday, refusing to rule out military action to curb the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions.

Barak, speaking on CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS program, indicated that Israel's patience was wearing thin -- and provided an ominous response when asked about the growing speculation of an Israeli military strike.

"I don't think that that is a subject for public discussion," he said. "But I can tell you that the IAEA report has a sobering impact on many in the world, leaders as well as the publics, and people understand that the time has come."

The International Atomic Energy Agency published a report on November 8 saying there was "credible" information that Iran was carrying out "activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device."

On Friday the IAEA's board passed a resolution condemning Iran's nuclear activities, but stopped short of reporting Tehran to the United Nations and issuing no deadline for compliance.

...The IAEA report -- based on "broadly, credible" intelligence, its own information and some input from Iran itself -- said that Iran had examined how to fit out a Shahab 3 missile, with a range capable of reaching Israel, with a nuclear warhead.

Tehran rejected the report "baseless," denies it is seeking nuclear weapons and maintains its nuclear activities are for civilian energy purposes.

Washington, Paris and London however jumped on the report as justification to increase pressure on Iran, already under four rounds of Security Council sanctions and additional US and European Union restrictions.

The UK military is already getting ready for the US action (whatever it will be, will be...), by the way.

From Guardian (11/2/2011):

Britain's armed forces are stepping up their contingency planning for potential military action against Iran amid mounting concern about Tehran's nuclear enrichment programme, the Guardian has learned.

The Ministry of Defence believes the US may decide to fast-forward plans for targeted missile strikes at some key Iranian facilities. British officials say that if Washington presses ahead it will seek, and receive, UK military help for any mission, despite some deep reservations within the coalition government.

In anticipation of a potential attack, British military planners are examining where best to deploy Royal Navy ships and submarines equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles over the coming months as part of what would be an air and sea campaign.

(The article continues at the link.)

The IAEA report on Iran nukes is here.

Let's see, who is downwind from Iran's nuke facilities?

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what angle Ex SKF is coming at this issue from, but I assume he is not on the side of the Zionist and Zionist controlled USA. The new "report" is just more BS from the hypocrites in the US/Zionist power complex telling countries that fall outside the Rothschilds controlled banking empire that if they do not toe the line to become global slaves we will bomb you back to the stoneage. Lest my comments are deleted first please read:

James Petras, The power of Israel in the United States;
Stephen Sniegoski, The transparent cabal;
Alan Hart, Zionism: The real enemy of the Jews

For a bit of background on the topic.

Of course, Douglas Reed, The controversy of Zion
is the all time classic and still highly relevant today, many years
after its publication.

As for Iranian nukes, I am anti nuclear power but comparing Iran's nuke ambitions, with what Mr. Vanunu documented when he blew the whistle about Israel's 200 or so nukes make them look like choir boys by comparison. Iran has never invaded a neighbor in recent times (they were attacked by a US supported Iraq in the 1980s) whereas Israel has a long line of terrorism (list to long to cite here), from the Lavon Affair to the attack on the USS Liberty to 911 a Mossad Job to Operation Cast Lead, etc.

Blessed are the peacemakers and may the warmakers go straight to HELL.

arevamirpal::laprimavera said...

My interest is Yukiya Amano:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2010/nov/30/iaea-wikileaks

Anonymous said...

The time has come to deal with the lunatic Israeli government, and all the insane Zionist suck-ups in western governments who play the chorus to Israel's warmongering.

TerraHertz

Anonymous said...

Yes, I see your point Ex SKF, about cosy relationships and pots calling kettles black, thanks for posting this.

Talk about Hypocrisy !!! WTF !!! Do as we say not as we do. The Lizard Lady.

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard says the time has come to lift a ban on uranium sales to India.
http://www.news.com.au/business/breaking-news/prime-minister-julia-gillard-says-time-to-change-uranium-policy-over-india-deal/story-e6frfkur-1226195581640

Anonymous said...

Allahs mullahs wait dancing: maybe the nukes make big enough hole for their messiah MAHDI to escape from his bin laden -cave, conquer the world, cut of all infidels hands, legs & heads (psst. they'd love to help)....

Anonymous said...

They say centuries of inbreeding is the cause of many problems facing the 'jews' today as it made them susceptible to suggestion by those afflicted with violent psycho-sexual disorders.

Anonymous said...

I would'nt like to be downwind Iran, but there's some sabre-rattling in this noise. Meanwhile others have interesting views, like :
http://www.slate.fr/story/46497/iran-guerre-secrete-nucleaire-israel-marque-points-contre-le-programme-nucleaire

I didn't find it translated in Slate.com, but here is the conclusion in englih:
If the hypotheses confirm, there would not be any more emergency to strike the Iranian nuclear factories and to take the risk of reprisals on the Israeli cities with rockets with conventional load of 750 kg of explosives which can blow up a whole district. It could explain the opposition of the servicemen (Defense) and the services of Israeli information against any striking against Iran in spite of the opposite opinion of the government. They seem to have the assurance to be able to disrupt the nuclear program and tried to prove it with the elimination of the most expert general in the manipulation of missiles.

Jacques Benillouche

Anonymous said...

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What do you do when mohamed says he'll wipe of you from the earth? Bow down your neck to be chopped by holy act?

Wikipedia: "All infidels, without exception, are to be fought and annihilated, and no weapons or types of warfare are barred."

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But of course those deluded are just operational pawns: See the real potent handshake shaking nuked nations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjHclCYU1vc

"Britain's armed forces are stepping up their contingency planning for potential ...

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Atomfritz said...

I dislike the muslim fanatics as much as the jewish ones.

The bad thing about all this is that due to the mighty influence of the jews in the anglo-saxon countries and their mass media there is much lying and deception from this side.

Iran has the right to protect itself against this state terrorism and warmongery.
It's their good right to fight back when attacked, and studying how to equip their Shahab missiles with MOAB warheads is completely okay.
Disallowing them to do so reveals the double standards of the zionist controlled MSM and "democratic" countries again.

Remember the lies that were used to justify the war against Saddam Hussein.
Iraq was no "democracy" before this war, but there was personal and religious freedom, it was a laizistic country, now it's like a fanatic religious hell there.

The only thing that seems to matter to the jewish-controlled anglo-saxon world is oil and money, not the people and human rights.

Anonymous said...

"...jewish-controlled anglo-saxon world..."

1. Adolph was a semi jew. Catholic, born from catholic parents, had his .org built by L0y0las priests... Stalin ... The very fanatic je§uit theses hideous all-controllers swear obedience today inside all governments.

3. Rothschild's. Same game. They built the israeli high court buildings facing knesset: hi temple of illuminati - goto 1.

(ref. Rothschild designed/Built Occultic Court Of Israel youtube.com/watch?v=jmpmGYMl_No)

Oh the 1.2.3.4 -loops do contain million steps, don't believe any of them but seek for the Truth.

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So who is a jew?

Historian Josephus tells us 70A.D.: "One group controlled the temple area. One Group controlled the City. One group controlled outside city walls. The folks were being killed day in/day out in the midst."

Dont fall in love yet with Josephus: He was a turncoat jew like Adolph, mass-acring (papal mass before pope) burning destroying Jerusalem in the troops of r0me...


Wake up: Its the haves vs. irradiated; haves have all the gold teeth in their r0man vaults...

(about Josephus
http://www.livius.org/ja-jn/jewish_wars/jwar02.html)

Mauibrad said...

If Israel bombs Iranian nuclear facilities they will create more nuclear meltdowns and true holocausts that need not happen. Israel pre-emptively bombing Iranian nuclear facilities will be what Isreal accuses Iran of only 'thinking' ('pre crime') of doing.

Anonymous said...

"Oooh I'm gonna punch him, see if I won't! Somebody stop me!"

This is what passes for diplomacy in Israel - they are threatening to go it alone, hoping, once again, to "wag the dog" so to speak, i.e. to get the US involved.

Anonymous said...

"...they are threatening to go it alone..."

LOL MSM lore... its so easy to do nothin but bark.

Their existence is being constantly threatened with "wipe off the map" declarations.

24/7

Anonymous said...

To be fair, Israel is a European invasion into Arab lands. Wiping them off the map is a reasonable response.

Definitely do not want to encourage Jew-hating though. that helps no-one.

See http://thedailybell.com/ for good articles on the Anglo-American power elite, Rothchilds, Israel etc.

Anonymous said...

To be fair = BIG lie.

The Israeli kingdom existed already 4000 yrs ago, archeologic fact. Regardless of rothschild or other papal jesuits. Even landowner salesdocuments for the main plot in Jerusalem from that time does exist - these rights wont vanish even if arab steal it...

Atomfritz said...

Now I have read through the IAEA document.

Conclusion:
The only confirmed accusation against Iran is the 19.8 kg inventory discrepancy of natural uranium.

Inventory discrepancies are always bad.
But, I think it's quite impossible to build a single nuclear weapon with 19.8 kg of natural uranium.
In other countries there have been numerous way bigger inventory discrepancies, in the order of hundreds of kilograms of plutonium (!), not harmless natural uranium.

All other accusations are based on secret documents contributed by unnamed western secret services.
These sources cannot be verified, and it must not be forgotten that the purpose of secret services, among other things, is disinformation.

Just one example, the IAEA report repeatedly claims that Iran is working with plutonium, and does not provide any single proof. (Remember, if a lie is being repeated again and again, people begin to believe it.)

I believe this as much as I believe that Saddam Hussein was engaged in mass annihilation biological/chemical weapon production, like Colin Powell stated in his (in)famous presentation.

If this were not an IAEA report, but a Greenpeace antinuclear research document, IAEA would dismiss it as a baseless pamphlet, just a collection of unsourced, biased and baseless rumors.

So in doubt we probably have to dismiss the IAEA accusations as baseless accusations. In dubio pro reo.

After all, it is important to keep in mind that Iran has large natural uranium reserves that they could possibly use as energy source when the oil reserves deplete.

Given the experiences the Iranians have with boycotts and embargoes of all kinds, it is very plausible and understandable that they want to achieve autarchy by developing indigenous technological capabilities to make use of their uranium reserves.
This is completely legitimate, no matter how one's personal view on nuclear energy is.

So I think it's important to ask the crucial question "cui bono?".
Who does profit by keeping Iran and the other oil producing countries weak and dependent from foreign technology?

Anonymous said...

Those Israelis are not these Israelis. Remember 90% of Israelis are Ashkenazi, ie. WHITE. Their skin color means that their ancestors came from areas with low levels of sunlight... like Europe!

Now if you want to make a point that the Sephardic Jews have a right to live in Israel then fair enough I agree. But they could for less than 10% of Israel!

Anonymous said...

0rdo ab cha0: The worlds biggest shareholder order of illuminatis in vatican. IAEA is its tool, like UN...

The whole theater feeds itself - nukelubed 'power': when one NPP uses 10x more fossil energy than it produces, boiling water with Plutonium has only one purpose. Keep warheads refreshed.

Reversed: closing one NPP 'releases' immediately its non used fossil fuel - 9x more free energy while pollution diminishes...

The 10x is a calculation on the whol wastful process from mining into burying. Contains the NPP 3/4 'waste', pumped into sea as waste heat.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:12, yeah whateva...

PJ London said...

Will you please stop with this "wipe off the map" nonsense, it is a lie, it was never said. What was said, was "an end to the Israeli regime".

The only person who wants to change the map, is Netanyahu, who has stated that Israel is to extend to the Jordan river, thereby wiping the whole of Palestine (currently restricted to the bits that make up the West Bank) off the map. (The Gazans will be annihilated on the basis that Hamas once sent a rocket into Israeli occupied Gaza)

Hassan said...

"Allahs mullahs wait dancing:.... conquer the world, cut of all infidels hands, legs & heads (psst. they'd love to help)...."

"What do you do when mohamed says he'll wipe of you from the earth? Bow down your neck to be chopped by holy act?"


I'm praying that you sober up before your neighbour Benkt Mohamed Ahmed Eklund cuts off all your appendages while you are typing.

jimbojames said...

Sounds like a lot of jew-hating, and like nothing's changed in 5,000 years.

We're one sick, twisted species.

Anonymous said...

Alas, the 'honored' Ah-mad-in-jihad butcher repeats the "wipe off tale" any time he has the mic...

Youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSQnfSfAsPM

Anonymous said...

allah fatwas = mullah farts

...poor deluded. Their dead god is not able, thus their murder crying thugs err mullahs have to corral the camels with fear.

Anonymous said...

jordan has just got vehicles from the usa to monitor the radiation from the strike on the nuclear facilities!!

and the director of the iaea said in march that if there was one more major nuclear accident, that that would be the finish of nuclear power!!

so do the iranian reactors count?? had he meant after the strike in iran, if there are any more nuclear incidents, that that would be the finish?

or did he mean after daichi, mercoule, unknown european wide iodine, cesium and reports of alpha and beta producing isotopes from an unknown unknown? and any iranian reactors that that would be the end of nuclear power!!

WHAT A JOKE!!

Anonymous said...

"Hassan said...
"Allahs mullahs wait dancing:.... conquer the world, cut of all infidels hands, legs & heads (psst. they'd love to help)...."

"What do you do when mohamed says he'll wipe of you from the earth? Bow down your neck to be chopped by holy act?"

I'm praying that you sober up before your neighbour Benkt Mohamed Ahmed Eklund cuts off all your appendages while you are typing."

Is his head included and going to roll? Please change text in your retort to "useless" appendages then.

Anonymous said...

"WHAT A JOKE!!"

Yes indeed. The IAEA was a joke from the start. Just a bunch of nuclear supply salespeople, nothing more.

Anonymous said...

Interesting how the anti-semites come out in droves, especially in Japan.

Stick to Fukushima.

Hate a little less, please.

Israel survives and thrives. Read all about it. Open your Bible.

Anonymous said...

I say maybe 3 well placed nukes, by surprise on tel aviv, jersulem, and pick another israeli city or settlement, and ALL the worlds problems are solved in (1) ONE Decade.

Anonymous said...

Open your Bible.

Which one?

the voice in your head said...

"I say maybe 3 well placed nukes, by surprise on tel aviv, jersulem, and pick another israeli city or settlement, and ALL the worlds problems are solved in (1) ONE Decade."

If your proposed tyrannicide is to get our resident Finn troll foaming at the mouth then well done. If not, shame on you.

Anonymous said...

"Of course, Douglas Reed, The controversy of Zion
is the all time classic and still highly relevant today, many years after its publication."

Observation: Douglas reed seems to have been a intellectual pimp for the Hose of Rothschild.

Gonzo said...

Iran has all the right in the world to develop nuclear weapons... They need to hurry up and develop a powerful nuclear deterrent if they are not going to succumb to deranged warmongering psychopath Israel and its Zombie state the United States.

Anonymous said...

The perpetual victims are kvetching again!
You know, I can't think of any reason why the world would NOT be better off without Israel.

Anonymous said...

"Read all about it. Open your Bible."

Yes, that's right, God has no problem with warmongering in case some Christian bleeding hearts were wondering. Read the whole book, not just the few warm fuzzy parts.

Isaiah 13:13-16
13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

14And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.

15Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Anonymous said...

What does Tehran have in common with Hiroshima?

Nothing yet

brian said...

Everywhere isreal. Free Palestine.

Anonymous said...

Attack of the Trolls !!!!

Go back and read Douglas Reed, The Controversy of Zion,

James Petras, The Power of Israel in the United States

and ignore the trash and garbage piling up here from the Mossad agents
claiming the Moozlims are evil and that Hitler was a Jew. The usual smoke and mirrors tactics.

Thanks to Ex SKF for raising the topic.

Anonymous said...

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allah fatwas = mullah farts

no heathen = no problem

Wikipedia: "All infidels, without exception, are to be fought and annihilated, and no weapons or types of warfare are barred."

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Anonymous said...

"...ignore the trash and garbage piling up here from the Mossad agents
claiming the Moozlims are evil and that Hitler was a Jew."

Mossad agents on EX-SKF. LOLZ.

Don't you believe in the Bible? This is God talking for Christ's sake, not Mossad agents! What kind of lapsed Christian are you? God makes Egypt, Ethiopia, and Seba pay for Israel's sins, so, we should care about heathen Iran? That's ludicrous.

Obviously, God likes Israel better than any other country! Are you going to argue against God?

More Isaiah:

43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

43:4 Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.

Anonymous said...

man, you are funny...i too, often thought that book was overrated(along with the koran) and that god was a head case so it is a mystery to me why it has been on the best sellers list for so long. on the other hand maybe it is not god but the people reading it who are head cases.

Steve said...

To the last poster. Your basic mistake is to confuse the ancient biblical Israel with the modern state started by Ashkenazim converts from Eastern Europe who never were and never will be "people of the book". The moden people with most lewgitimate claim to that heritage reject the modern state of Israel as fake and apostate.

The inheritors of the Pharisaic tradition, Zionists as they are called, are however mentioned in your bible, and are referred to as children of their father satan, as serpents and as "those who call themselves Jews but are not." God does favour true Israelites WHO ARE FAITHFUL TO THE COVENANTS, which excludes all Zionists obviously but which includes many Muslims and Christians. There is no requirement of those who are called by the name Israel (it refers to a people, not a state anyway) to be Jews. Indeed Jews didn't exist in the bible, there was only the teachings of the prophets. Jesus (PBUH) was such a prophet and so too was Muhammad (PBUH) and faithful followers of either man are also counted among the Israelites.

Anonymous said...

Wow... ALL the people I know feel "The time has come to deal with Israhell" then our Zionest run country.

Anonymous said...

But Steve, isn't Isaiah writing about ancient biblical Israel?

43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

How do you prove Israel means a people and not a nation/state. The Lord is King of a stateless people?

Anonymous said...

Give it up, warmongers. The fear that Iran might attack Israel with nuclear weapons would be unjustified even if it had them. Palestine, especially Jerusalem, is sacred ground to Islam. Do you recall the ongoing furor that began several years ago, following a Danish newspaper’s publication of several satirical cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed? Assassination squads are still on the prowl. What do you think the response in the Moslem world towards the Iranian leadership would be, if Iran irradiated or destroyed the Dome on the Rock? The real goal seems to be the return of ethnic Muslims – also a Semitic people – cleansed from Palestine by Israel following its creation in 1948. On a purely practical level, that could not happen if the land is turned into a radioactive wasteland.

The IAEA report demonstrates that the Iranian nuclear program is a model of openness and disclosure compared to that of Israel. It contains virtually no information on Iran's nuclear program that was not known nearly a decade ago, and there is no pretext in it for launching a war. Israel, on the other hand, is the only nuclear power in the Middle East that has ever threatened the use or suggested circumstances under which it would use nuclear weapons against another country.

Thinking in our own self – interest, the tedious barrage of disinformation and threats directed at Iran may ultimately provoke that country to develop its own nuclear weapons. The bigger question is: why does our government provide unquestioning political, military, and financial support for a foreign country’s pointlessly belligerent and counterproductive actions and policies when they are clearly not in our own national interest?

peter said...

Ya , ... time to act... so long as others do the dying.

As usual.

Anonymous said...

"Give it up, warmongers." :-)

Is your threat aimed at all readers, or just at JESUS and his believers??? If you are a Christian then you'd better start studying God's character, my friend. God, is, like, the biggest baddest warmonger EVER! GLORY!

Crack open that Bible pronto so that reading it and following it will prevent your ass from ending up sizzling in The Lake of Fire. Or do you need me to quote Revelations too.

Zephaniah 3:8 (KJV)

"Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy."

Anonymous said...

Meh, forget about the violent warmongering and vengefully jealous Christian God. He is no match for that hideously evil devil's spawn --THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

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