tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post7972741756635968573..comments2024-03-27T00:22:35.272-07:00Comments on EXSKF: #Radioactive Japan: Thyroid Control Screening Reveals Much Higher Percentages of Cysts and Nodules in Children Far Away from Fukushimaarevamirpal::laprimaverahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10637620330944911600noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-18276106409724089732013-03-26T18:23:00.619-07:002013-03-26T18:23:00.619-07:00well if I may add my 2 cents;
None of these surve...well if I may add my 2 cents; <br />None of these surveys mean anything.<br /><br />Fukushima survey; 42% thyroid abnormalities! That can only be wrong as most of the data released comes out of Fukushima Medical University. Plenty of mothers have gone to have ultrasounds performed on their kids at Dr. Suzuki and Yamashita's hell hole. These worried parents been told that their kids had no nodules. But they seek second opinions from "independent" clinics. Many parents realized they have been duped and found out that their children actually had thyroid abnormalities. This data from the FMU is rigged to its core as far as I know.<br /><br />As for the survey in Aomori, Yamanashi and Nagasaki; can anyone answer the following questions hereunder? <br /><br />Where are these children from ?<br /><br />Where were they at the time of the accident?<br /><br />Which children were tested ? Were they chosen randomly or were these data collected from cancer clinics ?<br /><br />Was the methodology of the testing the same as the one performed in the Fukushima survey?<br /><br />Another interesting point is that according to Marumori town in Miyagi prefecture, they detected nodules or cysts in children's thyroid ; 13.3 %. The survey was implemented on children whom were under 18 years at the time of the accident. Among 1,982 children, they detected cysts from 264. <br /><br />I do not want to play conspiracy here ... but it seems to me that 13% is closer to reality and is in line much more with other countries similar surveys. <br /><br />Evacuate Fukushima 福島の子供を守れ<br /><br />Nelsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-33481406614223742222013-03-11T07:05:32.736-07:002013-03-11T07:05:32.736-07:00@7:41 they are not burning debris *literally* all ...@7:41 they are not burning debris *literally* all over Japan but they are doing it in Tokyo, Osaka, Kita Kyushu and I can't remember where else... that qualifies as a large part of Japan to me, especially population wiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-86125781425101892702013-03-10T13:54:59.515-07:002013-03-10T13:54:59.515-07:00@2:20 It is true that prof. Takeda is not a doctor...@2:20 It is true that prof. Takeda is not a doctor but this is irrelevant: I am not receiving treatment from him.<br /><br />@5:28 Well, cancers are bound to become symptomatic anyways so your observation does not apply; it would apply if we were talking of cysts that can not be detected by any of the exams that kids normally undergo when they are not the potential victims of a nuclear accident.<br /><br />@7:18 hm, depends on your definition of "rural" I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-60729705026048586112013-03-10T07:18:54.052-07:002013-03-10T07:18:54.052-07:00City is just an administrative division in this ca...City is just an administrative division in this case. Kofu city and Hirosaki city are rural areas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-29259267400640766362013-03-10T07:01:08.424-07:002013-03-10T07:01:08.424-07:00Thanks Anon 8.3(10:57 PM) for listing up the city ...Thanks Anon 8.3(10:57 PM) for listing up the city sizes.<br /><br />The point is, if you sum up the inhabitant of the major cities in Fukushima (under normal conditions I woudl consider Date and Nihonmatsu already as more rural than city) you will get about 1 million people. In the whole province you have nearly 2 million inhabitants. So in the Fukushima Kids-sample 50% of the kids are form bigger cities (with the usual pollution problem of a city - cars, industry, etc...). In the comparison group you have 100% kids from bigger cities (with the usual pollution problems).<br /><br />Thus by default the study designers will get the desired result (same amount of abnormalities or more found in the compare group than in Fukushima). No need to fake any doctors examination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-37593022647199186682013-03-09T19:41:35.268-08:002013-03-09T19:41:35.268-08:00Kintaman, they are not burning debris in those loc...Kintaman, they are not burning debris in those locations. They are not burning all over Japan either. Very limited number of locations. And I-131 is practically gone by now.<br /><br />Anon at 7:30PM, in those three cities, children aged 2 were the ones who were age zero at the time of the accident. Not clear from the article whether they meant "at the time of the accident" or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-44294705793749857612013-03-09T19:30:56.988-08:002013-03-09T19:30:56.988-08:00During the press conference they mentioned the dif...During the press conference they mentioned the different ages to explain the higher incidence of nodules and cysts detected outside of Fukushima: 県外での数値が大きかったことについて環境省は「(しこりが見つかりにくい)0〜2歳を対象にしていないことなどが原因」と説明した http://mainichi.jp/area/news/20130309ddp012040031000c.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-54698350185798608352013-03-09T18:52:08.494-08:002013-03-09T18:52:08.494-08:00Fukushima children who received the thyroid checks...Fukushima children who received the thyroid checks did so from infancy, but the official tests outside Fukushima are starting at age two. The data are not comparable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-58671548652208477192013-03-09T18:22:40.797-08:002013-03-09T18:22:40.797-08:00Nah, Iodine-131 was gone 6-8 weeks after the accid...Nah, Iodine-131 was gone 6-8 weeks after the accident.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-8413638596742830112013-03-09T18:19:25.933-08:002013-03-09T18:19:25.933-08:00Could it be that incineration of radioactive debri...Could it be that incineration of radioactive debris all over Japan is playing a part in this?kintamannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-10006802438326323462013-03-09T17:28:22.801-08:002013-03-09T17:28:22.801-08:00The data from the National Cancer Center is not re...The data from the National Cancer Center is not really comparable with the data they are getting now in Fukushima. During a regular year, thyroid tumors are only detected if they become symptomatic or by chance during another type of test. This is very different from the situation now, in which there are prefecture-scale thyroid tests being conducted on all the kids that were between 1 and 18 at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-47218925442823646282013-03-09T14:20:58.551-08:002013-03-09T14:20:58.551-08:00Beppe, Prof Takeda is no doctor.Beppe, Prof Takeda is no doctor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-33628209415369499542013-03-09T14:12:36.407-08:002013-03-09T14:12:36.407-08:00According to prof. Takeda thyroid cancers are in t...According to prof. Takeda thyroid cancers are in the 50-fold range for Fukushima (http://takedanet.com/2013/02/10_6a83-1.html, in Japanese).<br /><br />He is saying that 3 cases of cancer have been reported and 7 more cases are classified as "almost cancer" after screening 38,000 kids under 18 (26.3 cancers every 100,000 people). He then compares these figures with those expected by the National Cancer Center of 0.6 cases over a population of 100,000.<br /><br />He is also reasoning on small numbers (hence statistically imprecise) but one needs also to consider that 1) radioactive iodine causes cancer 2) Daiichi emitted its fair share of iodine.<br /><br />Compare this with aviation: 1) when a plane crashes usually all passengers die 2) a certain plane has a tendency to develop fires on board. No one has died yet but you still ground the planes.<br /><br />BeppeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-2274670327705490552013-03-09T08:55:26.723-08:002013-03-09T08:55:26.723-08:00Aw crap, it's the copy and paste Finnish troll...Aw crap, it's the copy and paste Finnish troll(5:12 PM) again. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-38218972237469364682013-03-09T02:52:28.626-08:002013-03-09T02:52:28.626-08:00@arevamirpal::laprimavera "...and why Fukushi...@arevamirpal::laprimavera "...and why Fukushima children seem to have fared "better" than children in these cities..."<br /><br />good question!<br />interesting thread of comments.<br /><br />just thought i might add that this<br />Japans national institute of radiological studies<br /><br />"..some people are more inclined towards cancer.."<br />he says that in the context of a radiation study carried out in rats using 100 and 200 millisievert<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUTtphVtPOFUet1kFExGwzLA&feature=player_detailpage&v=TZi2Gu3FwPY#t=1141s<br /><br />the sake(?) university has done another study on DNA that can trace damage to the DNA helix using electronmicroscope.. <br /><br />at 22.00 mins approx <br />mentions "golden opportunity but must be done soon.. "as yet, no one from the government has responded to requests for smamples or ACCESS to fukushima..."<br /><br />so, no studies in this area any time soon.. very efficient of the government to block DNA testing and research AND the thyroid research..<br /><br />its a funding squeeze on good science... this is to save the corps/government some money.. plain and simple..<br /><br />"the thyroid study is a red herring" <br /><br />if not done properly.. that is exactly what it is..<br /><br />a luminous radioactive herring of science fictioned sized proportion..<br /><br />lots of people are checking your article out on nuclear-news.net admin.. <br /><br />oh and lady barbara judge, dodgy science, dodgy companies, a mysterious WHO report, lots of money being splashed around by AREVA nuclear, japan agreeing to restart (but not tell anyone).. bloggers being harassed by nuclear connected legal companies, A Nuclear rennasaince and finally another pretend war to distract the japanese nationalist anti nukers.. (did that work?)<br /><br />err end rant..<br /><br />hope the url takes you to 20 mins approx<br />some food for thought there<br />now im off to JANUK london demo and remembrance demo.<br /><br />my thoghts and prayers to all those effected by the great earthquake of 2011<br /><br />peace light and love everyone!<br /><br />:) <br />arclightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-63762017844713381602013-03-09T00:20:13.880-08:002013-03-09T00:20:13.880-08:00I think the level of nodules and cysts is lower be...I think the level of nodules and cysts is lower because of the therapeutic effects of low level radiation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-49681287413893088522013-03-08T22:57:03.993-08:002013-03-08T22:57:03.993-08:00Population of Fukushima City: 284,000
Koriyama: 32...Population of Fukushima City: 284,000<br />Koriyama: 328,000<br />Nihonmatsu: 57,500<br />Date: 63,650<br />Iwaki: 330,000<br />Aizuwakamatsu: 124,500<br />TOTAL FUKUSHIMA: 1.96 million<br /><br />Nagasaki City: 438,680<br />Hirosaki: 181,210<br />Kofu: 196,000Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-64352471215934500272013-03-08T22:48:41.212-08:002013-03-08T22:48:41.212-08:00A Japanese medical doctor tweeted that this prelim...A Japanese medical doctor tweeted that this preliminary result shows that Fukushima is "statistically better" than the three cities, and epidemiologists had better explain what's going on in these three cities, and why Fukushima children seem to have fared "better" than children in these cities. And possibly other places in Japan if private, small-scale survey and anecdotal evidence from the doctors are correct.arevamirpal::laprimaverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10637620330944911600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-20885459654123227742013-03-08T22:32:43.160-08:002013-03-08T22:32:43.160-08:00Nihonmatsu is way smaller than that, even if it...Nihonmatsu is way smaller than that, even if it's called Nihonmatsu City.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-46288285172075718912013-03-08T22:28:28.549-08:002013-03-08T22:28:28.549-08:00Hirosaki and Kofu cities are quite small, though, ...Hirosaki and Kofu cities are quite small, though, less than 200,000 population. Nagasaki has a bit less than half a million. For comparison, Fukushima city has around 300,000 and Koriyama and Nihonmatsu cities are both over 300,000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-59179542563620967232013-03-08T22:14:47.495-08:002013-03-08T22:14:47.495-08:00Isn't it a bit unfair to compare the populatio...Isn't it a bit unfair to compare the population of 3 cities with the whole results of Fukushima province - a very rural area?<br /><br />One wonders why they chose only Nagasaki and not also Hiroshima as their comparative group?<br /><br />I hope they will show separate results for Nagasaki City, Kofu City and Hirosaki City and not only a sum.<br /><br />In principle, one does not need to lie about the results of a study, if one has CHOSEN the comparative group WELL (in your favour). One should never forget that most career bureaucrats in Japan are from Tokyo University, thus they are intelligent, but unfortunately, they do not use their intellect and power to serve the Japanese people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-11539152295935695632013-03-08T21:50:11.902-08:002013-03-08T21:50:11.902-08:00Sorry I forgot: Assholes, I see them fkng FISSIONI...Sorry I forgot: Assholes, I see them fkng FISSIONING!!!1!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-24820196176253202942013-03-08T17:12:36.248-08:002013-03-08T17:12:36.248-08:00Fkn idiots... Fkn 3rd world know nothing piece of ...Fkn idiots... Fkn 3rd world know nothing piece of shtt.<br />P.fkng S, Stop The Fission in the fkng molten cores with neutron poisons ie; "lead & tin" A fkng Holes! I can see that they're fkng fissioning!!!!!<br />PROVEN <br />In addendum japan's dead, should've stopped the fission, day 1.<br />Is 5-10 times "5million to 10 million bq/m2«notice it's not bq's km2, yeah, oh shtt is right"chernoble evacuation zone contamination livable? Well... It's factually proven it isn't.<br />/also, that 5 to ten million bq's a m2, that's just cesium137, outputs of cesium 134 are nearly double that when reactors and fuel pools spew, not to mention that Americium which turns into plutonium, and plutonium are likely adding another million of 2 million bq's a m2 which everyone is too COWARDLY "yeah, it's the truth, wanna fight about it?" to test for, so do the math = roughly 20-22million bq's m2 200 km's of course not spread evenly, god. The reactors are still adding to that. Staying = DEATH proven/ factually backed up fukushima and surrounding areas» http://enenews.com/all-5000000-bqm2-detected-fukushima-city-video/comment-page-1#comment-331805<br />Knowing this, if someone in Japan KNOWS THIS OK!!! and stays, well I can say they just don't give a profoundly offensive expletive. Ignorance in this will end in death, no if, and's or but's, you can bet your life on it, I'm factually right according to chernoble's fallout zones human statistics. Save life or kill it, there is no fkng middle ground here, what am I trying to do? What are you trying to do? Stay die, leave maybe live "'cause you have plutonium in you" PROOOOVEN!<br />No1listens, lalala I can't hear you... You've been effing warned/armed with Factually Valid information, wtf more do you want or need, change your own diaper, all I offer is life saving intelligence. Take it or die, your life is in YOUR HANDS NOT MINE. Your life has been stolen, I'm trying to give you a chance to cheat the cheaters and live it. Lies are not factual life saving/giving intelligence, facts and truth are ffs. But, but, but.... "no but's, it happened, to leave is to live and that is that when in comes to long term wide area dispersal of fissionable nuclear materials through fission and fire." PERIOD. Not your fault,theirs, leave! Stockholm syndrome, you have no allegiance nor owe anything, nor support those who ever try to harm or kill you, you fkng remember that. Fk<br />I just watched a supposedly democratic nation kill it's civilian population, think about that. <br />P.S 3 meltdowns/fuel fires in a country the size of california=no more country, disagree? Go Fkn live there, prove it you shtt talkin' snivelkng Lil shtt's. You can't have the equivalent of at least 3 nuclear reactors explode and not have less contamination released and less land contaminated than ckskn Cher effing noble. /DUMB /PROOOOVEN! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-58197907633022117222013-03-08T16:36:01.954-08:002013-03-08T16:36:01.954-08:00Tepco get off all compensation liability after 3 y...Tepco get off all compensation liability after 3 years, if I am not mistaken.Ask yourselves WHY?<br /><br />Feckless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1765307840677473617.post-4524290515271879272013-03-08T12:32:13.818-08:002013-03-08T12:32:13.818-08:00The full study results to be announced at the end ...The full study results to be announced at the end of March by the Ministry of the Environment. The screening is still ongoing in March.arevamirpal::laprimaverahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10637620330944911600noreply@blogger.com