Friday, August 24, 2012

#Radioactive Japan: Miyagi, Tochigi, Ibaraki, Chiba to Have Final Disposal Sites for Highly Radioactive Ashes from Garbage Incineration, Sludge

Goshi Hosono's Ministry of the Environment is on the sudden offensive against citizens and residents of Kanto and Tohoku, again.

According to the Yomiuri Shinbun article, the Ministry of the Environment is already talking with the officials in the municipalities in three prefectures to built final disposal sites in their cities and towns.

As the wide-area disposal of disaster debris winds down as it is now widely revealed that there is simply not enough debris to widely distribute, Mr. Hosono looks desperate to do something so that he can claim he has made people "share the pain".

From Yomiuri Shinbun (8/21/2012):


Final disposal sites for ashes from contaminated garbage to be built in the land owned by the national government in four prefectures


Concerning the disposal of ashes from incinerating the contaminated garbage and of contaminated sludge as the result of the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant accident, the Ministry of the Environment has decided to build a final disposal site in the land owned by the national government in each of the four prefectures, Miyagi, Tochigi, Ibaraki, and Chiba.


The locations will be selected by the end of September and announced.


Since the start of the nuclear accident, a large amount of ashes and sludge with high concentration of radioactive cesium has been generated at garbage incineration plants, water purification plants and sewer treatment plants in Tohoku and Kanto regions. The waste with more than 8,000 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium is to be disposed of by the national government. As of August 3, the amount of such waste is 42,575 tonnes in 9 prefectures [including Tokyo].


The Ministry has decided to utilize the land owned by the national government in the four prefectures where particularly large amounts [of ashes and sludge highly contaminated with cesium] have been generated and the storage space is hard to find. In Miyagi, Tochigi, and Ibaraki, the Ministry has already held meetings with officials in local municipalities in an effort to finalize the plans.

So, the local officials have been talking with the Ministry for some time. I bet they haven't said a word about it to the residents.

Who said "Render unto Caesar"? Render unto TEPCO the things which are TEPCO's.


Anonymous said...

I sincerely hope I survive Hosono san and am able to process some of my own waste at his memorial site.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Hosono doesn't understand. All the government has to do is tell the people in the 20km evacuation zone that they cannot return to their homes.

Give them the government land in Miyagi, Tochigi, Ibaraki and Chiba as compensation.

Don't negotiate with the local Fukushima political leaders at all. Just do it.

The land there is dead and should not be used for human habitation. It's common sense. The land there in Fukushima is ideal for one thing only - final disposal site for nuclear waste from TEPCO's failure.

There is no need to spoil the rest of Japan. Just stop arguing with the Fukushima locals and do the right thing for once.

Atomfritz said...

"So, the local officials have been talking with the Ministry for some time. I bet they haven't said a word about it to the residents."

This smells of some sort of corruption.

Anonymous said...

Is the government really arguing with Fukushima (Futaba?) officials? Or does the government itself want to spread the nuclear waste on purpose?
Not only this idea of distributing the pain is idiotic but they keep coming up with new ways of doing it. It cannot be because the more you spread the radioactive waste the harder it is to relate illnesses to the accident, can it? I do not want to fan out conspiration theories but the government behaviour makes me wonder...

Anonymous said...

Rendre à Cesar... c'est dans la Bible !
"Render unto Caesar…" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels, which reads in full, "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ Matthew 22:21)

Anonymous said...

@anon 5:20am

Moving the people isn't a bad idea but it might not be as cut and dried as asking people to leave. Even if everybody agreed to pull up roots and move is the land they propose for the various waste sites even able to support all the people they'd need to exile? Can the local economy provide jobs and infrastructure for the influx of people? Probably not, radioactive wastes doesn't have the same needs humans have. Any permanent evacuation would have to be spread out to avoid upsetting the local economic and environmental balance. I doubt the proposed sites couldn't even support one small town from the contaminated region.

While I agree moving the waste is pretty dumb I can see why the government is proposing to do it. The victims think it will significantly reduce their radiation exposure levels this in turn will help lower the government's financial exposure to the victims.

What many people don't understand is the nuclear industry can't afford to force a mass permanent evacuation because that isn't something you can hide with a PR campaign. I'm afraid they are going to just keep trying to polish this turd until it becomes shiny or it goes away in the public consciousness.

Neither the government or the nuclear industry wants a monument to their failure to be compounded by a permanent mass exodus of the population. Something like that makes it pretty hard to sell nuclear power as clean and safe. As far as they are concerned 20 mSv a year is fine for everyone and if you get more it is always below any level of concern (regardless of if they test you or not.) Smile, think happy thoughts and while you're at it keep your gutters clean and everything will be alright.

Anonymous said...

These disposal sites are to store the ashes produced in each Prefecture after burning garbage and sewage waste, not to store radioactive waste from Fukushima.

Anonymous said...

Anon @4:37 Yes. That's the plan. However if the government simply re-purposes the already destroyed land in Fukushima, there would be enough space there that these facilities would not be needed in the other prefectures.

Anonymous said...

Anon, I see. Like the people from Fukushima say: "Tokyo got the electricity, Fukushima gets the radiation."

Anonymous said...

@4:37 The disposal site are for the garbage and sludge collected in each prefecture which contain more than 8000 Bq/kg of the radioactive waste produced in Fukushima.
I would say that Tepco should store the garbage at F1 and F2 because it is THEIR waste. When an oil spill occours no one even dreams to say, "hey, it is your oil now".
@6:14 Fukushima gets the radiation and the subsidies, Tokyo gets the electricity, I would say. Folks in Oi have made the same choice, to my dismay.
By the way, "Render unto Caesar" etc. was Jesus reply to people asking him whether they should pay taxes to Rome or to the local temple. I believe Jesus answers can be interpreted along the lines of "give the Romans back their filthy money and pray god for mercy". I wish the folks in Oi could follow this advice.

Anonymous said...

"Render unto Caesar" was Jesus accepting to pay taxes to a secular authority while at the same time not recognizing Caesar as a god.

Atomfritz said...

a propos corruption:

arevamirpal::laprimavera said...

Thanks Atomfritz for the article. Funny Asahi dare calls it "shady" payments, when it damn well knows that's nothing but normal business in Japan for decades, not just the past few years, and not just in nuclear power generation.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 6:14 said
Anon, I see. Like the people from Fukushima say: "Tokyo got the electricity, Fukushima gets the radiation."

Yes. That's right. Tokyo did not approve the construction of a large scale nuclear power plant within its prefecture. Tokyo did not allow a big company to pay off locals to get approvals needed for the facility. While I am no fan of Ishihara, Fukushima cannot blame this accident on the electricty consumers of Tokyo. Fault lies with TEPCO, the cities that allowed the plant to be built, the NISA for not regulating it, and others too numerous to mention. But to think that you can blame the consumer of a product for the misdeeds of the farmer or manufacturer who created it is unfair.

Practically speaking however, if Tokyo had received more fallout than Fukushima, then I would be proposing making Tokyo the waste dump instead of Fukushima. That did not happen. We have what we have.

Anonymous said...

Like money, electricity is fungible. It's not that the electricity generated by the nuclear power plant glows, or colored red.

Many in Tokyo may not have wanted electricity generated by a nuke plant, but did they have choice in the matter? Probably not.

Anonymous said...

Hey Ultraman... here the guy that gives hints.

Another one that could prove useful to translate into Japanese and present it to the bureaucrats in the Kagoshima town:

If you can please watch this, ok?


In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself.

Jiddu Krishnamurti

Anonymous said...

Today Yomiuri in English came up with its own version of "quality vs. quantity": we can't allow polls and public comments drive energy policy choices, it writes.
Why do polls in the first place then? and how about a referendum, Yomiuri-san? Would that be good enough? Or should we instead rely on the quality of the "experts" advice: Tepco, Hitachi, Toshiba, Noda and his vice ministers...

@9:17 hmm... "give everything to the poor and follow me", but before that file your taxes properly? are you sure?


Anonymous said...

but mr jesus is very far away

Anonymous said...

By the way, ExSKF has never reported on how much radiation is released from incineration, whie making a big deal out of it (I agree it is) but dismissing the danger of Unit 4SFP.

See the following for at least a guesstimate:

Meanwhile in Tokyo the Japanese government admits that the incineration of radioactive debris shipped from the tsunami disaster zone, from 2011 to 2013, will emit at least 2 billion becquerels of radiation into the air (according to my calculations) (4; 5). Yes, you read that correctly: TWO BILLION. Compared to the FNPP disaster that is not much at all, that number could end up being lower, or even much higher, depending on how much debris is burned, how radioactive it is, whether the equipment malfunctions, and so on. The curious point is that the Japanese government admits they are intentionally emitting radiation into densely populated urban environments.

Nominally, this policy is “to help the people in the Northeast” (or more likely to help their buddies in the incineration business). This is sheer insanity, but these are the times we live in, when even Japanese school children are being given pamphlets “full of misleading information and half-truths” about the safety of burning radioactive debris (6).

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