Wednesday, December 11, 2013

(OT) Sign Language Interpreter at Mandela's Funeral Made It All Up

(UPDATE) Mr. Thamsanqa Jantjie says he was hallucinating, seeing angels, according to AP. He insists his sign language is proper, which is vehemently contested by sign language experts and people who use sign language. They say it was gibberish.

Meanwhile, New York Post (only one of so many) is rather upset with the president of the United States taking a selfie with a leggy blonde who happens to be the prime minister of Denmark.


You can't make things like this up, but this unnamed man apparently did.

From AP via My Way News (12/11/2013):

Mandela ceremony interpreter called a 'fake'

JOHANNESBURG (AP) - A man who provided sign language interpretation on stage for Nelson Mandela's memorial service, attended by scores of heads of state, was a "fake," the national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa said on Tuesday.

Asked about the claim by The Associated Press, South Africa's government said it was preparing a statement.

Three sign language experts said the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation. It wasn't immediately clear if the unidentified man was using a different method to communicate.

The unidentified man seen around the world on television next to leaders like U.S. President Barack Obama "was moving his hands around but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," said Bruno Druchen, the federation's national director.

Nicole Du Toit, an official sign language interpreter who also watched the broadcast, said in a telephone interview that the man on stage purporting to sign was an embarrassment.

"It was horrible, an absolute circus, really really bad," she said. "Only he can understand those gestures."

South African parliament member Wilma Newhoudt, a member of the ruling party who is deaf, also said the man communicated nothing with his hand and arm movements. AP interviewed both Druchen, who also is deaf, and Newhoudt by telephone using an interpreter.

The man's identity hasn't been disclosed.

Video from UK's Telegraph:


SouthJerseyJoey said...

beats me what the guy was doing. it looks like it be secret service hand communications. only the finnish troll knows for sure ;-)

Anonymous said...

He was interpreting the true crap that comes out of poititians mouths and that's why it didn't make sense!

Anonymous said...

The poor man graduated from the Finnish Troll School of sign language.

Anonymous said...

This guy should be working for Tepco

Anonymous said...

Wow, he was doing his thing for 4 hours and nobody took him off stage. I would have at least thrown in some break dancing and some twerking towards the end.

Anonymous said...

Jim Morrison would comprehend the meaning.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

And this guy was hired by the same high echelon government people who some insist have a diabolically genius masterplan to subdue the world population and ultimately enslave us? Yeah, good luck with thinking themselves out of a paper bag.

VyseLegendaire said...

It's all the same if you ask me. Considering Mandela was a fraud and a horrible murderer Marxist, and Obama likewise.

Anonymous said...

I read about this a few days ago. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

"Why pay someone for a quality service when they can provide epic fail for a cheaper price?"
"Why bother learning sign language when you can make it up yourself and still get paid for it?"

That is the kind of mentality I see everywhere now, for everything.

The worst part is that there are always people who will jump to the defense of such mentality, just because they don't like to see anyone complaining about anything. They never care that they are making the world a shittier place for everyone by dismissing valid issues. Humans should be renamed to Hedons.

Anonymous said...

Why trivialize the funeral of a great man with such reporting? Always good to divert attention from Japan and point the finger (however minor the event) to something non-Japanese.

Anonymous said...

Anon at 11:01PM, get lost.

Anonymous said...

If people can fake being able to operate npps why not sign language?

Anonymous said...

10:11 PM, I agree wholeheartedly, whith both your comments!

Anonymous said...

It's Tourette's World, 10:11.

And don't worry everyone, DITU/D2 is watching you, has got your back.



IntelAgent said...

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Hikarius said...

Sure it is a farce, but the interpreter might be the result of exploitation from outsourcing, as suggested by some respondents here and The Guardians.

"Ordinarily, sign language interpreters in South Africa are switched every 20 minutes to maintain their concentration levels, she said. Jantjie was on the stage for the entire service, which lasted more than four hours. (...) Whereas the standard fee for an interpreter is 1,300 to 1,700 rand a day, she noted, Jantjie was being paid just 800 rand."

Anonymous said...

As for the selfie, it might be worthwhile also reading this:

I Have A Name said...

Nelson Mandela was not a great man. He was a violent terrorist with a long-standing, high-ranking position within the South African Communist Party up until his death (which was finally admitted by that organization & several recognized others, post-Mandela's death, after decades of denying it. Decades. Why?). Do your own research.

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